Tones2
Apr 13, 02:11 PM
Yet another ridiculous speculation by unqualified experts who need real jobs.
Tony
Tony
gatearray
Apr 13, 01:56 PM
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Nope, no way
Precisely!
This is utter nonsense, Apple doesn't enter markets where they can't succeed if not dominate. With all the less expensive options out there, how well do the $999 Cinema Displays sell? Exactly. :)
Besides, there already is an Apple TV.
Nope, no way
Precisely!
This is utter nonsense, Apple doesn't enter markets where they can't succeed if not dominate. With all the less expensive options out there, how well do the $999 Cinema Displays sell? Exactly. :)
Besides, there already is an Apple TV.
CEAbiscuit
Jul 25, 08:12 AM
I wonder if it will moo?;)
TwoSocEmBoppers
Mar 15, 10:12 AM
I am also in line at brea. About 11th in line... Using the white one I already got haha. Waiting for a friend
Ha saw you walk in and jealously immediately set in when I saw yours. I'm about 4 behind you in a green hoodie.
Btw I'll post Brea updates here as soon as I hear.
UPDATE: Brea is passing out tickets!!!!
Ha saw you walk in and jealously immediately set in when I saw yours. I'm about 4 behind you in a green hoodie.
Btw I'll post Brea updates here as soon as I hear.
UPDATE: Brea is passing out tickets!!!!
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nishioka
Apr 28, 04:19 PM
I LOLed. Episode was a bit too silly IMO.
A bit?? :D
A bit?? :D
Lutris
Mar 31, 12:14 PM
Anyone else keep getting distracted by an urge to tear off the little torn bits of the 'previous' sheet of paper? :rolleyes:
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SMM
Dec 3, 07:23 PM
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Perhaps a few of the people who said yes may think that, but don't assume all of us are like that! Please feel free to look into my post history, not that it is any of your business anyway. You will find that I am a true Apple and Mac fan through and through!
I do not assume any such thing. There were two issues involved in my post. One was about the motivation, and reaction about security. The other was more generalized about the disinformation campaign (FUD), I am witnessing on this board. I did not reference any particular post, content, or person in this thread. So, I am unclear why you seem to feel I have attacked you, or (collectively) everyone.
Perhaps a few of the people who said yes may think that, but don't assume all of us are like that! Please feel free to look into my post history, not that it is any of your business anyway. You will find that I am a true Apple and Mac fan through and through!
I do not assume any such thing. There were two issues involved in my post. One was about the motivation, and reaction about security. The other was more generalized about the disinformation campaign (FUD), I am witnessing on this board. I did not reference any particular post, content, or person in this thread. So, I am unclear why you seem to feel I have attacked you, or (collectively) everyone.
fatboyslick
May 4, 04:18 AM
Let's be clear... "Android" is an OS from Google that you can find on dozens of phones from many manufacturers.
Apple knows they can't compete with that. And they're not. Marketshare is not a goal. For instance... Android has more marketshare... now what?
It's Mac vs Windows all over again. Windows is crushing Macs 10 to 1. Dell and HP have sales that dwarf the Mac. But is Apple really in trouble with the Mac?
Apple sells phones... and quite a lot of them. 18 million iPhones last quarter... and 16 million in the previous quarter. Any other manufacturer would kill for those numbers.
If iPhone sales drop to ZERO... then we can talk about Apple rethinking their strategy. Until then... Apple will continue to sell hundreds of thousands of phones every day... further positioning themselves away from bankruptcy.
Indeed - Apple make money from the sale of iphone hardware whereas Google will only take a percentage.
However, Google's plan is to control OS's because they then make money from their App store and adverts
Apple identified this last year and thus released the Ad-Sense scheme for devs to tempt them to use Apple's App Store over Googles.
Apple knows they can't compete with that. And they're not. Marketshare is not a goal. For instance... Android has more marketshare... now what?
It's Mac vs Windows all over again. Windows is crushing Macs 10 to 1. Dell and HP have sales that dwarf the Mac. But is Apple really in trouble with the Mac?
Apple sells phones... and quite a lot of them. 18 million iPhones last quarter... and 16 million in the previous quarter. Any other manufacturer would kill for those numbers.
If iPhone sales drop to ZERO... then we can talk about Apple rethinking their strategy. Until then... Apple will continue to sell hundreds of thousands of phones every day... further positioning themselves away from bankruptcy.
Indeed - Apple make money from the sale of iphone hardware whereas Google will only take a percentage.
However, Google's plan is to control OS's because they then make money from their App store and adverts
Apple identified this last year and thus released the Ad-Sense scheme for devs to tempt them to use Apple's App Store over Googles.
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astroot
Apr 28, 05:57 PM
I sat the two next to each other just like the original pic there, and they are exactly the same, in my opinion. Imagine the OP got a "defective" one.
dethmaShine
Mar 31, 02:10 PM
If you want functionality, then go use Windows. Most Mac users are designers and the look of something is just as important as functionality. Steve Jobs may love the look of his day planner, that doesn't mean I have to be stuck with it.
You and the person you quoted imply that UI is not a part of the functionality.
Am I right?
You and the person you quoted imply that UI is not a part of the functionality.
Am I right?
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PghLondon
May 1, 05:27 AM
Of course there is. iOS runs on two currently available Apple smartphone models: 3GS and 4. The iOS that runs on these phones is sufficiently different in feature sets from the iOS that runs on Tablets, media consumption devices, and Apple TVs:
-Larger resolution on tablets
-Communications handled separately - No phone app or visual voicemail on Tablet or iPod Touch
-No installable apps on Apple TV
AppleTV isn't being counted. If it had apps, it would be. For now, while it's running iOS "under the hood", Apple and analysts aren't actually mentioning that or using it in counts.
And the differences between iPad / iPod / iPhone are orders of magnitude less than the differences between the ultra-high and ultra-low ends of what is being counted as Android "phones".
This whole "smartphone OS" is something dreamed up in the last few weeks by Android apologists, after the numbers showed that Apple has the most popular OS and the most popular piece(s) of hardware in the mobile industry.
-Larger resolution on tablets
-Communications handled separately - No phone app or visual voicemail on Tablet or iPod Touch
-No installable apps on Apple TV
AppleTV isn't being counted. If it had apps, it would be. For now, while it's running iOS "under the hood", Apple and analysts aren't actually mentioning that or using it in counts.
And the differences between iPad / iPod / iPhone are orders of magnitude less than the differences between the ultra-high and ultra-low ends of what is being counted as Android "phones".
This whole "smartphone OS" is something dreamed up in the last few weeks by Android apologists, after the numbers showed that Apple has the most popular OS and the most popular piece(s) of hardware in the mobile industry.
Chris Bangle
Jul 28, 10:44 AM
I reckon the zune will be in the same situation as the sony clie. Its gonna be an amazing product with a million more features than an ipod, but will millions of people buy. Just as sony couldnt compete with palm, microsoft cant compete with apple, but the xbox is very impressive for a software company so im not going to underestimate microsoft.
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jav6454
Apr 29, 04:03 PM
At this point, most people would call an explanation necessary.
I don't have one at this point. Random people killed and so far only villagers dead. I have no idea on a wolf.
Now if that is suspicious to you, then go ahead and kill me. You'll be surprised at the result.
I don't have one at this point. Random people killed and so far only villagers dead. I have no idea on a wolf.
Now if that is suspicious to you, then go ahead and kill me. You'll be surprised at the result.
haveaniceday91
Apr 22, 04:40 PM
I switched from ios to android after selling my 3g and getting a Captivate. After owning the captivate and using my friends iphone 4 quite a bit there are 3 things that can get me to switch back.
1. Bigger screen. I'd take an decrease of pixel density over smaller screen size any day. I'd love a 4 inch screen but 3.7 is okay.
2. (puts up flame shield) Iphone 4 feels like a brick. HEAVY. My captivate with a case is feels MUCH lighter than i4. I'd like it if apple could trim the fat somewhere without sacrificing it's great battery life.
3. Better notification system with some sort of widgets (or at least some relevant lockscreen info and quick access to settings). I can't believe it's taken this long and the few rumors of ios 5 haven't been getting my hopes up.
I'm over flash on a phone, I barely ever use it, but I still would like something to fill the gap in the tablet space while html 5 matures.
To the iphone's credit, the overall package is much more polished than android (except for notifications-those are just embarrassing)
and as a bonus, my captivate gps doesn't work for jack so I'm not being tracked. :cool:
/rant
1. Bigger screen. I'd take an decrease of pixel density over smaller screen size any day. I'd love a 4 inch screen but 3.7 is okay.
2. (puts up flame shield) Iphone 4 feels like a brick. HEAVY. My captivate with a case is feels MUCH lighter than i4. I'd like it if apple could trim the fat somewhere without sacrificing it's great battery life.
3. Better notification system with some sort of widgets (or at least some relevant lockscreen info and quick access to settings). I can't believe it's taken this long and the few rumors of ios 5 haven't been getting my hopes up.
I'm over flash on a phone, I barely ever use it, but I still would like something to fill the gap in the tablet space while html 5 matures.
To the iphone's credit, the overall package is much more polished than android (except for notifications-those are just embarrassing)
and as a bonus, my captivate gps doesn't work for jack so I'm not being tracked. :cool:
/rant
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Intell
Apr 16, 07:45 PM
Welcome to the twelfth installment of the Simple Werewolves Game!
The game will begin as soon as discussion and sign-ups conclude. The number of people that sign-up will dictate how many and what type of werewolves we have in the game.
This game is a blend of simple and live formats. This means that lynching occurs after a time period, not majority. Specials also only have 24 hours to PM.
GAME RULES:
THE GOOD GUYS:
Hunter: The Hunter can pick a player to protect every night against werewolf attacks. However, the Hunter cannot protect the same player two nights in a row, and cannot protect him/herself. The protection does extend into the daytime, meaning the Hunter can protect a villager from a Kamikaze Werewolf attack.
Seer: The Seer can find the true role of any ALIVE player.
Villager: Same as before.
Neighborhood Watch: Three elves that can exchange PMs with one another. Their members can be infected and they cannot recruit additional members. They have no decisions to PM to me. What they discuss is up to them. The roles of Neighborhood Watch will only be giving if there are more then 15 people playing.
THE BAD GUYS:
The Werewolves: Werewolves can PM each other. They pick one villager to eat per night. There are three kinds of werewolves;
a) Alpha Wolf, can at any time during the game, pick one villager to infect. This will convert the villager into a normal werewolf (no special abilities) and join the werewolves' team. The infection is effective against specials such as the Seer.
b) Kamikaze Werewolf has the ability to pick any one villager to kill during his lynching. In other words, if he is voted to be hanged, he will take one villager with him.
c) The normal Werewolf has no powers.
Miscellaneous:
a) Villagers can NOT PM each other. (exception: neighborhood watch members)
b) Werewolves CAN PM each other.
c) Players can edit their posts during the game is in progress, however if you edit your post, you MUST give an explanation of why/what you edited.
d) (a.k.a. the jav6454 rule (by the way of -aggie-) :D) Dead players can NOT participate in the game - this includes providing information, encouragement, tips or otherwise. This has been an issue in the previous game, so I'm going to be more strict with this. Dead players are eligible to ONE post following his death. This one post follows the same rules as before - cannot influence the game, and so forth. Posts consisting of little more than an image is DISCOURAGED, so please avoid this. Dead players are allowed to post as much or as often as they want. But they must make all of there posts in the colour gray. The posts are also not allowed to influence the game in any way. If you are unsure of a post topic, don't post it. Good posts are along the lines of "Good job villagers!". A bad post would be: "I think Bob is a wolf." If people start posting things that could influence the game, I will ask them to edit the post to remove the offending text then reinstate the jav rule.
e) Voting for lynching will close 24 hours after day has started. (Unless stated otherwise.)
f) Voting can only take place in the daytime. Any votes made during the night will not be counted.
g) For clarity, when you vote, bold the name of the player you're voting for. This alleviates confusion and makes it easier for me to count the votes. You can also play with this - "I really like Bob, he's a great guy" counts as a vote for Bob You can jokingly vote by not bolding the name - it will not be counted.
h) You can retract and change your vote at any time up to the close of the vote.
i) The game will begin at DAYTIME, the days are 24 hours unless specified else. The person with the most votes will be lynched at that time. In the event of a tie, the first person to that number of votes is lynched.
j) There will be a TIME LIMIT of 24 hours for Specials to send in their PMs. The time limit will be 24 hours after the posting of the lynching. (NOT after the voting closes). Please remember that you can pre-PM these actions at the start of the day preceding the night in question. You can change this action up until the next morning. I also remind you that the villagers can agree to not lynch anyone with a unanimous vote.
k) I will post special results as soon as I am online and have them all. Thus, it is highly recommended that you set your profile to invisible mode so that other posters cannot view your login activity to see if you were online in the period between lynching and special results.
l) Villagers will now be told if they are scanned or protected. Specials should consider this before preforming their actions.
m) This question has came up in the discussion, so here is the turn order during the night:
Werewolf infects
Seer scans;
Hunter protects;
Werewolves attack.
n) If a player is a mod, he or she is not allowed to use their other godly powers to alter the game.
o) It is recommended that the players put their status into Invisible Mode.
To do this:
Go to User CP (http://forums.macrumors.com/usercp.php)
Edit options
Check Invisible Mode
http://imgur.com/kFHAA.png
PLAYERS
I will assign roles via Random.org, so looking for patterns will be fruitless (but not vegetableless, eat your veggies).
Players:
1. -aggie- dead - wolf
2. ucfgrad93 - dead
3. NathanMuir - dead
4. Eldiablojoe - dead - wolf
5. lbro
6. Moyank24 - dead
7. appleguy321 - dead
8. chrmjenkins
9. nies - dead - wolf
10. Don't panic - dead
11. Plutonius - dead
12. jav6454 - dead
The game will begin as soon as discussion and sign-ups conclude. The number of people that sign-up will dictate how many and what type of werewolves we have in the game.
This game is a blend of simple and live formats. This means that lynching occurs after a time period, not majority. Specials also only have 24 hours to PM.
GAME RULES:
THE GOOD GUYS:
Hunter: The Hunter can pick a player to protect every night against werewolf attacks. However, the Hunter cannot protect the same player two nights in a row, and cannot protect him/herself. The protection does extend into the daytime, meaning the Hunter can protect a villager from a Kamikaze Werewolf attack.
Seer: The Seer can find the true role of any ALIVE player.
Villager: Same as before.
Neighborhood Watch: Three elves that can exchange PMs with one another. Their members can be infected and they cannot recruit additional members. They have no decisions to PM to me. What they discuss is up to them. The roles of Neighborhood Watch will only be giving if there are more then 15 people playing.
THE BAD GUYS:
The Werewolves: Werewolves can PM each other. They pick one villager to eat per night. There are three kinds of werewolves;
a) Alpha Wolf, can at any time during the game, pick one villager to infect. This will convert the villager into a normal werewolf (no special abilities) and join the werewolves' team. The infection is effective against specials such as the Seer.
b) Kamikaze Werewolf has the ability to pick any one villager to kill during his lynching. In other words, if he is voted to be hanged, he will take one villager with him.
c) The normal Werewolf has no powers.
Miscellaneous:
a) Villagers can NOT PM each other. (exception: neighborhood watch members)
b) Werewolves CAN PM each other.
c) Players can edit their posts during the game is in progress, however if you edit your post, you MUST give an explanation of why/what you edited.
d) (a.k.a. the jav6454 rule (by the way of -aggie-) :D) Dead players can NOT participate in the game - this includes providing information, encouragement, tips or otherwise. This has been an issue in the previous game, so I'm going to be more strict with this. Dead players are eligible to ONE post following his death. This one post follows the same rules as before - cannot influence the game, and so forth. Posts consisting of little more than an image is DISCOURAGED, so please avoid this. Dead players are allowed to post as much or as often as they want. But they must make all of there posts in the colour gray. The posts are also not allowed to influence the game in any way. If you are unsure of a post topic, don't post it. Good posts are along the lines of "Good job villagers!". A bad post would be: "I think Bob is a wolf." If people start posting things that could influence the game, I will ask them to edit the post to remove the offending text then reinstate the jav rule.
e) Voting for lynching will close 24 hours after day has started. (Unless stated otherwise.)
f) Voting can only take place in the daytime. Any votes made during the night will not be counted.
g) For clarity, when you vote, bold the name of the player you're voting for. This alleviates confusion and makes it easier for me to count the votes. You can also play with this - "I really like Bob, he's a great guy" counts as a vote for Bob You can jokingly vote by not bolding the name - it will not be counted.
h) You can retract and change your vote at any time up to the close of the vote.
i) The game will begin at DAYTIME, the days are 24 hours unless specified else. The person with the most votes will be lynched at that time. In the event of a tie, the first person to that number of votes is lynched.
j) There will be a TIME LIMIT of 24 hours for Specials to send in their PMs. The time limit will be 24 hours after the posting of the lynching. (NOT after the voting closes). Please remember that you can pre-PM these actions at the start of the day preceding the night in question. You can change this action up until the next morning. I also remind you that the villagers can agree to not lynch anyone with a unanimous vote.
k) I will post special results as soon as I am online and have them all. Thus, it is highly recommended that you set your profile to invisible mode so that other posters cannot view your login activity to see if you were online in the period between lynching and special results.
l) Villagers will now be told if they are scanned or protected. Specials should consider this before preforming their actions.
m) This question has came up in the discussion, so here is the turn order during the night:
Werewolf infects
Seer scans;
Hunter protects;
Werewolves attack.
n) If a player is a mod, he or she is not allowed to use their other godly powers to alter the game.
o) It is recommended that the players put their status into Invisible Mode.
To do this:
Go to User CP (http://forums.macrumors.com/usercp.php)
Edit options
Check Invisible Mode
http://imgur.com/kFHAA.png
PLAYERS
I will assign roles via Random.org, so looking for patterns will be fruitless (but not vegetableless, eat your veggies).
Players:
1. -aggie- dead - wolf
2. ucfgrad93 - dead
3. NathanMuir - dead
4. Eldiablojoe - dead - wolf
5. lbro
6. Moyank24 - dead
7. appleguy321 - dead
8. chrmjenkins
9. nies - dead - wolf
10. Don't panic - dead
11. Plutonius - dead
12. jav6454 - dead
Shadow
Oct 24, 08:26 AM
Hmmm...I've never seen a power adapter on a plane, and I flew a few days ago (on a cheapo airline, but still...). Core 2 Duo isnt that much of an upgrade, its "only" 1.4X, which to some people would make a lot of difference but to me it doesnt. Whats that, like a second faster on most tasks? Not worth the wait. Also, whats the word on CPU buzz?
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peeInMyPantz
Oct 24, 08:07 AM
is the applecare more expensive now? or is it the same? I didn't take notice previously.. but it looks really expensive now
rovex
Apr 27, 01:52 PM
Yes it was, as you were claiming to "know" that it was faked. Claiming that was offensive in the very least.
it's an observation, whether you like it or not. But anyway, my post didn't revolve around that point, you just blew out of proportion. Claiming i'm "bored" in your little rant is comical.
it's an observation, whether you like it or not. But anyway, my post didn't revolve around that point, you just blew out of proportion. Claiming i'm "bored" in your little rant is comical.
SciFrog
Nov 23, 08:31 PM
The above is correct.
PeterQVenkman
Apr 28, 10:08 AM
THere are two articles on the home page right now: one about Verizon iPhones not selling as well as thought, and one on the Verizon iPhone surge causing Android US market share to slip.
So the news is that they are simultaneously doing better and worse than anticipated?
So the news is that they are simultaneously doing better and worse than anticipated?
Daschund
Aug 15, 02:41 PM
thank goodness for the ichat upgrades.
I'd still second the request that it needs to work with MSN to be useful in the real world...
Daschund
I'd still second the request that it needs to work with MSN to be useful in the real world...
Daschund
CIA
Apr 23, 07:06 PM
Testing doesn't mean it is definitely coming. Apple is going to weigh all it as a business opportunity or not.
T-Mobile could mean another 3-6 million phones in a year. If it is a simple hack of an AT&T phone and easy to implement, it might be worth Apple's effort.
Besides, what WILL happen to T-mobile's frequencies? The HW would have to be modified/upgraded/changed to support AT&T, right? Those cell towers won't switch overnight to AT&T freqs for no cost.
What really would make sense would be an AT&T/Verizon/T-Mobile WORLD phone. That would make the most sense to me.
I am sure any plans to launch it have been scrapped and this is just a left over prototype. You know Apple has a history of planning for every contingency, I am sure there are Sprint iPhones ready to go also. If Apple decides to release them they would be ready to go.
I'm sure buried inside Apple there are iPhones for every conceivable cell frequency setup on earth. They have to plan for every possible option, and with boat loads of cash, why not build some prototypes. As technology moves on and several chips with different functions merge into single chips, the Apple dream (most companies dream really) is a single phone that can run on any network. LTE will go a long way to making that a reality. Then it's just making sure your antennas work with whatever freq the carrier is on.
Steve. Hates. SKU's. In his mind there should be a single world-mode phone, black only, and 2 sizes. Once the cloud thing happens at apple then one size only as everyone pulls data from "out there" and local storage means nothing. Seeing 18 SKU's of iPad2's probably makes his skin crawl.
The other shocker I take from this... Why would Apple test out prototype stuff using un-released cases? If you want to blend in, why not test T-Mobil inside the black iPhone. The white one was a rare sighting already, a white T-Mobil phone? That makes me wonder about this. If I saw a while iPhone in the wild I'd ask about it... And if I saw it was on t-mobil?
T-Mobile could mean another 3-6 million phones in a year. If it is a simple hack of an AT&T phone and easy to implement, it might be worth Apple's effort.
Besides, what WILL happen to T-mobile's frequencies? The HW would have to be modified/upgraded/changed to support AT&T, right? Those cell towers won't switch overnight to AT&T freqs for no cost.
What really would make sense would be an AT&T/Verizon/T-Mobile WORLD phone. That would make the most sense to me.
I am sure any plans to launch it have been scrapped and this is just a left over prototype. You know Apple has a history of planning for every contingency, I am sure there are Sprint iPhones ready to go also. If Apple decides to release them they would be ready to go.
I'm sure buried inside Apple there are iPhones for every conceivable cell frequency setup on earth. They have to plan for every possible option, and with boat loads of cash, why not build some prototypes. As technology moves on and several chips with different functions merge into single chips, the Apple dream (most companies dream really) is a single phone that can run on any network. LTE will go a long way to making that a reality. Then it's just making sure your antennas work with whatever freq the carrier is on.
Steve. Hates. SKU's. In his mind there should be a single world-mode phone, black only, and 2 sizes. Once the cloud thing happens at apple then one size only as everyone pulls data from "out there" and local storage means nothing. Seeing 18 SKU's of iPad2's probably makes his skin crawl.
The other shocker I take from this... Why would Apple test out prototype stuff using un-released cases? If you want to blend in, why not test T-Mobil inside the black iPhone. The white one was a rare sighting already, a white T-Mobil phone? That makes me wonder about this. If I saw a while iPhone in the wild I'd ask about it... And if I saw it was on t-mobil?
cbronfman
Apr 22, 06:09 PM
Yup, I was one of the haters when the iPhone 4 leaked. I still prefer the physical design of my 3GS. The rounded edged are perfect holding the phone feels like shaking someone's hand. The iPhone 4 doesn't feel as nice to hold, even if it does have nicer aesthetics.
I would kill for a return to the old design, but eliminate the chrome rim on the front and have the back case curl all the way up to the black face. Then made the back from a new material that doesn't crack as easily as the old plastic. Maybe a molded carbon fiber design? That would be sexy as hell. An iPhone 4 style dark grey carbon back casing flush with the now iconic black face, no shiny chrome ********.
+1 so long as it also has the A5 processor and HSPA+. I like this proposed redesign but then I have small hands and I've never liked the rectangular sharp edges of the iP4 or the glass back. I love my iPad2.
I would kill for a return to the old design, but eliminate the chrome rim on the front and have the back case curl all the way up to the black face. Then made the back from a new material that doesn't crack as easily as the old plastic. Maybe a molded carbon fiber design? That would be sexy as hell. An iPhone 4 style dark grey carbon back casing flush with the now iconic black face, no shiny chrome ********.
+1 so long as it also has the A5 processor and HSPA+. I like this proposed redesign but then I have small hands and I've never liked the rectangular sharp edges of the iP4 or the glass back. I love my iPad2.
NT1440
May 1, 10:16 PM
Anyone with a clue knows these.
Still a significant blow to have the 'figure head' taken out regardless.
For PR reasons, yes, significant. As for combatting terrorism, if anything its going to cause blowback.
Still a significant blow to have the 'figure head' taken out regardless.
For PR reasons, yes, significant. As for combatting terrorism, if anything its going to cause blowback.
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